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If you're at all like me, I've sure you've found yourself wondering on those dark quiet nights as you lay back in bed in contemplation of the more perplexing questions of the universe: If the release of Star Trek XI was pushed back from Christmas to summer but its principle photography has already finished, then where are all the spoilers already, huh?

Okay, so it's not so much spoilers as a really really great tease of the film, but eeeeee movie news posted to AICN earlier this week if you haven't seen it yet. !!! HOW AM I SO EXCITED FOR A MOVIE THAT COMES OUT IN LIKE A YEAR? AND THAT I'VE ALREADY BEEN EXCITED ABOUT FOR THE PAST YEAR BEFORE THEY MOVED THE RELEASE? I have a feeling that finally watching it next summer is going to be one of the most surreal cinematic experiences of my life; but a lot of my nervousness keeps getting channeled into a steady mantra of yay yay yay. And as long as I'm catching up on Trek-related tidbits, d'aww here's a sweet McCoy article from last month (except of course it leaves us with more pressing questions -- namely, what is Karl Urban's other favourite Trek episode? No, seriously? Why mention it if you're not going to then include the proper information?? Dear intarwebs, please supply a miraculous answer because I Need To Know). I've been catching up on DS9, too, and while I'm a bit meep don't be over! now that I'm on the seventh season, I'm still really really loving it and I kind of want Vic to be my best friend and Ezri is the worst counselor ever but still totally cute and I think I ship Quark/Dax because I'm bad and wrong and wrong and bad and I just watched "The Emperor's New Cloak" this morning and Miles and Julian are ragamuffin floppy-haired mirror universe rebel boyfriends and all is right with the world. :D

Date: 2008-06-29 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mneiai.livejournal.com
I'm kinda excited for the movie...I just really wish they were going with the original release date.

I miss DS9 like whoa, though I love reading the articles about how BSG is the DS9 that learned from its mistakes. Also, I still watch anything with Alexander Siddig in it haha Bashir and O'Brian are TOTALLY mirror universe bfs, and possibly non-mirror universe bfs (and Keiko totally watches).

Date: 2008-06-29 05:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] snowystingray.livejournal.com
Me too! I had everything perfectly planned out for a winter release and it was going to be epic and awesome and now it just feels like foreverrrr until it comes out and I guess I'm also extra levels of weirded out because it means that I won't see the film until after I've graduated from college meep. At least it gives me more time to figure out who I want to go as. Because, you know, dressing up is kind of requisite. ;)

I definitely see the parallels between BSG and DS9 but, weirdly, although I often feel that DS9 is my favourite Trek series (sometimes jumps back and forth with TOS), I really just can't get into BSG. On the one hand I can see BSG as taking a lot of the same themes to a higher level than DS9 ever dared to venture, but I also feel like it misses some of the emotional resonance in its quest for darker rawer edgier. I mean, sometimes you just need to take a step back and get stuck in a holosuite for an episode, you know? Sure, the goofiness and the cheesiness keeps it from achieving that same narrative purity, but I like to actually care about the characters and laugh with them and enjoy some happy, hopeful beats in the middle (which is probably why I am such a sucker for B/O'B, mirrorverse or otherwise, because they are so. darn. cute. around each other and I think having those little anchors of normalcy is what makes their situation that much more pressing and powerful).

Date: 2008-06-29 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mneiai.livejournal.com
Omg, I won't see it until after I've graduated from college, too! Scary!

I always think back to the story about how the executives or whoever told the BSG peeps that they should have some more lighthearted scenes. This lead to a famous scene where there's a bunch of pilots, etc., in the hanger celebrating some guy's 100th flight. They're drinking, and laughing, and have him lifted up in the air. And then one of the tanks explodes and people die. Apparently none of the higher ups ever suggested a happy scene ever again.

But it does get daunting. Even the scenes that should be happy--people reuniting when they thought at least one of them dead, people falling in love, the fleet finding habitable planets...all of those scenes get spun to be depressing. Plus, there's actually very little buddy-ness going on between any of the male characters, which is incredibly annoying (bromance RULES!).

Date: 2008-06-29 08:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] snowystingray.livejournal.com
This lead to a famous scene where there's a bunch of pilots, etc., in the hanger celebrating some guy's 100th flight. They're drinking, and laughing, and have him lifted up in the air. And then one of the tanks explodes and people die. Apparently none of the higher ups ever suggested a happy scene ever again.

OMG haha, that's... wow. XD And see, I can totally understand and respect their commitment to the vision they have for the show, which is why even though I don't watch BSG I am rather glad that that type of television programming exists. Buuut at the same time, man. I just don't think I have the guts to sign myself up for a four year journey of "and then everybody was kind of a bad person and then they all ruined the lives of themselves and others and then they all died," no matter how appropriate it is to that particular story.

Plus, there's actually very little buddy-ness going on between any of the male characters, which is incredibly annoying (bromance RULES!).

Ah, yes, I totally thrive off the camaraderie that flourishes in these group environments (see: previous post of excessive team fangirling, ha), and for me that's usually the single most important part of getting hooked onto a show -- feeling some sort of connection with the collective character dynamics (aka how many warm fuzzies do I get when I watch these guys?? Geez, I sound like I'm watching the Care Bears or something, but I swear it can apply to scifi as well!).

Date: 2008-06-30 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polingly.livejournal.com
Yaaaay for sorta-kinda STXI spoilers! Honestly, I am slavering for even minor things like this...just general teasing statements of the "It's teh awesome" sort. Because they send me into squee-ish fits.

In fact, people who know me tend to think that the movie must be coming out in, like, a month. After, say, someone has said they're looking forward to Dark Knight, I'll say, "Oh, yeah, that's cool...but don't forget about THE STAR TREK MOVIE, EEEEEEE!!" And then they'll say, "Oh, yeah, that's coming out soon too, isn't it?"

Oooohhh, if soon means, like, next May. XD (Man, why did they push the release date...although it does sound as if it'll have very little competition in 2009, so hey, I guess that's a good thing, all in all. But I am way impatient.)

Very freaky to think I'll be graduated then too. Ackkk. It's going to be amazing though. :D

Date: 2008-06-30 03:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] snowystingray.livejournal.com
Very freaky to think I'll be graduated then too. Ackkk. It's going to be amazing though. :D

Haha, oh man, it seems we are all getting so old! But I love that we will apparently also all be celebrating our maturity and adulthood with "AKLDSJSD;AFSDSTARTREKKKKKYAY!!!1!" XD It seems appropriate, somehow.

And, hee, I do the same thing in squeeing over this movie at every possibly opportunity. I guess it's because the only other film I'm really looking forward to between now and then is Harry Potter that it just naturally comes to mind during discussions of upcoming movies, but... yeah. Every new tidbit explodes into its own private supernova of excitement. When the teaser trailer first came out I'm pretty sure I showed it to absolutely every person I know, most of whom responded with, "...it's thirty seconds long. And, uhhh, nothing actually happens" -- but what I love most about Trek is that for those of us who did kind of OD on excitement with that short teaser is that there's a collective understanding of why exactly one might get so emotional over those opening four notes of the theme song, Nimoy's voice, the word ENTERPRISE!!, etc. etc.

I think the "official" explanation for changing the release date ties back to the writer's strike (I think the STXI script was finished right before the strike), because that gap in having incoming scripts to put into production means that they aren't anticipating as many finished films to fill out the summer blockbuster season -- thus, bumping one of the few movies they already knew they had in the bag. So, I mean, I guess it makes sense... but... that doesn't mean I can't grumble about it anyway. ;P

Date: 2008-06-30 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcadiaego.livejournal.com
The opening paragraph of that post kind of made me not want to read the rest of it, and when I did I still thought I disagreed with Knowles hugely about Trek, but I suppose any news is nice to get seeing as it's so so long till the release date. (grr arg)

Date: 2008-07-02 06:00 pm (UTC)
ext_30739: Benjamin Linus loves his premium channel package (star trek)
From: [identity profile] snowystingray.livejournal.com
I think I know what you mean, a bit... For me, at least, as much as I do get excited about all the film chatter (what? Really? In case you couldn't tell ;P), there's always sort of that hitch of cognitive dissonance in reading about how the perfect Trek film should be because I always think of true Trek as the show. Well, hmm, that's not really fair because I do quite like most of the films, but I don't think they work as well independently without the backing of years of TV canon and it's just not possible to develop that same sort of feeling solely within a film. So talking about dreams for the film as "big-budget" "epic" "sweeping" etc. doesn't exactly reach to what I love most about the franchise. But, I mean, obviously I'm not expecting a maybe two-hour film to operate within the same structure as a years-long television program, so I think I'm just gearing myself up for a fun adventure and lots of pretty and then we'll see where it goes from there...!

Date: 2008-07-02 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arcadiaego.livejournal.com
I know what you mean. A lot of the time it seems that people want Trek films not to actually contain what makes Trek so beloved, or want to appeal to people who don't like the show. Which is slightly pointless I think, although I can understand financially where they're coming from.

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